They Want to Erase Us: A "Season of Destruction" - Eddie Glaude Jr & Imani Perry
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We are living through what Imani Perry calls a “season of destruction,” a deliberate era where the legacy of the freedom movement is being erased. In this riveting dialogue, Imani Perry & Eddie Glaude Jr. does not just lament the state of the nation; they dissect the very soul of American democracy.
The conversation centers on a powerful dialectic: “freedom snatching” versus “freedom seeking”. Eddie Glaude argues that we must look beyond the mid-20th-century Civil Rights movement—which we often view as the norm—and instead study the “plague years” following Reconstruction to understand our current crisis. It is in those moments of profound betrayal, such as the era of the Fugitive Slave Law, where we find the blueprint for how to build in the face of catastrophe.
Perhaps the most provocative thread is their critique of modern success. Imani Perry poses a haunting question: What is freedom? Is it merely the ability to live like middle-class white people?. The scholars warn against a “Black neoliberalism” that equates freedom with material access while ignoring the erosion of the very institutions—the “barrier islands”—that once protected Black communities from the storm.
This is not a conversation about despair; it is a call to reconstruction. As Imani Perry notes, the work of building isn’t just about political victories; it is a “fortification,” a space for self-creation and love in a society where white supremacy remains the baseline condition.
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